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	<title>Comments on: What the Michelin man said about London in 2010</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Britains Gastromnomic Crown &quot; , which would be where exactly? You have 4, 3star Michelin restaurants in a nation/cult  with a population of over 64 million . Such an achievement , congrats to all involved . Now I know you lot like to exalt yourself but please get a grip , you have to be the biggest underachieving nation on the planet per capita , congratulations again!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Britains Gastromnomic Crown &#8221; , which would be where exactly? You have 4, 3star Michelin restaurants in a nation/cult  with a population of over 64 million . Such an achievement , congrats to all involved . Now I know you lot like to exalt yourself but please get a grip , you have to be the biggest underachieving nation on the planet per capita , congratulations again!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Yap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic Yap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good write up, and I really enjoy your blog as well. I totally agree that Eastside Inn should have been awared a star. Michelin claims a star is for &#039;good cooking&#039; so on that basis, it should have been well deserved. They are pratically next door to me so I pop in often and know they have worked very hard since opening in spring 09. All the best to them. Have you tried the now menu-less restaurant? ps. how excellent was that souffle on the bistro side? Shame the pastry chef is leaving end of the month.

I thought The Capital deserve to have both it&#039;s stars deleted. I had a terrible lunch there but their chef Eric Chavot left in summer, so being stripped of it&#039;s stars was no surprise. Same with Foliage (which I dearly miss). I think Chavot is looking for a west London site for a bistro, so that&#039;s something to look forward to this year. Ditto Bruno Loubet, set to open at The Zetter, not far from Eastside Inn incidentally. Happy eating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good write up, and I really enjoy your blog as well. I totally agree that Eastside Inn should have been awared a star. Michelin claims a star is for &#8216;good cooking&#8217; so on that basis, it should have been well deserved. They are pratically next door to me so I pop in often and know they have worked very hard since opening in spring 09. All the best to them. Have you tried the now menu-less restaurant? ps. how excellent was that souffle on the bistro side? Shame the pastry chef is leaving end of the month.</p>
<p>I thought The Capital deserve to have both it&#8217;s stars deleted. I had a terrible lunch there but their chef Eric Chavot left in summer, so being stripped of it&#8217;s stars was no surprise. Same with Foliage (which I dearly miss). I think Chavot is looking for a west London site for a bistro, so that&#8217;s something to look forward to this year. Ditto Bruno Loubet, set to open at The Zetter, not far from Eastside Inn incidentally. Happy eating!</p>
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		<title>By: Food. By Mark.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Food. By Mark.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha ha you star collector! So that&#039;s what happened with The Capital. Like we discussed... Waterside Inn... you and me. Romantic weekend in Bray. HAR HAR HAR

I share many of the same on my eat list. But Chez Bruce is also on my eat list. Mainly because my mate Dave lives 10 minutes from there and he owes me for helping move his cast iron bathtub. 

M2 - perhaps stars going to Tokyo has something to do with population density, restaurant location density and general food culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha ha you star collector! So that&#8217;s what happened with The Capital. Like we discussed&#8230; Waterside Inn&#8230; you and me. Romantic weekend in Bray. HAR HAR HAR</p>
<p>I share many of the same on my eat list. But Chez Bruce is also on my eat list. Mainly because my mate Dave lives 10 minutes from there and he owes me for helping move his cast iron bathtub. </p>
<p>M2 &#8211; perhaps stars going to Tokyo has something to do with population density, restaurant location density and general food culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Kang L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kang L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t - Ahh I see. Will find out more about the changes at the Capital.

Mr Noodles - ... not to mention shiny platinum plated toilet seats.

Wild Boar - hahaha... there are far more astute michelin hunters than I :D , but you are right - all guides have strengths and weaknesses. 

M2 - Mmm very true is it something like 150 restaurants right?

Travel Destinations - Hmm....

GC - Hi C! Thanks for pointing it out, will make the changes, and yea terrible oversight from myself not to mention the Bib. Speaking of this particular style of French cuisine, I think the guide is biased towards what is known as Haute Cuisine right? This is due in part to the refinement work done by Chef Auguste Escoffier in the early 20th Century, and whom is considered a sort of father of modern day haute cuisine, and more liberally the front runner of what we recognise as the &#039;michelin standard&#039; ... if such a bias does exists. 

London Chow - Hakkasan is one of the worst restaurants in town in my humble opinion. I will give it that it still has great ambiance but food wise, this place is rip-off central. And this is coming from someone who used to like it. My example relates to meals from 2006 through to 2008. In 2006, when it was still a Yau establishment (and at the height of his success) , the cooking was definitely higher in terms of technical ability. I remember the claypot atlantic scallops - five extra large scallops full of &#039;wok hei&#039; - very good. The lobster tail roll - a whole tail wrapped in cucumber and then served in a clear broth - fantastic. Creme Brulee with melon - refreshing twist on a classic. In 2006, I think the star was well deserved. In 2008 , the scallops turned into fishballs and the Berkshire sweet and sour pork is worse than Wong Keis, at 15 pounds they are asking for, they are having a laugh! As for Yauatcha, I think the dim sum is good, but its not michelin star good. I can think of at least a handful of better and cheaper dim sum places in town which would easily match the standard at Yauatcha. The Yau magic is waning in 2010, I&#039;m no longer a fan of his restaurants I&#039;m afraid, his restaurants used to be bespoke and unique, now they feel commercial, I don&#039;t know, I just think he&#039;s turning into abit of a franchise, too much of a business and not much of a passion. I guess same thing about GR. I&#039;m hoping to try Fat Duck this year as well. 

Youngandfoolish - I suppose that&#039;s where foodblogs come in :D

LexEat - Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t &#8211; Ahh I see. Will find out more about the changes at the Capital.</p>
<p>Mr Noodles &#8211; &#8230; not to mention shiny platinum plated toilet seats.</p>
<p>Wild Boar &#8211; hahaha&#8230; there are far more astute michelin hunters than I <img src='http://londoneater.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  , but you are right &#8211; all guides have strengths and weaknesses. </p>
<p>M2 &#8211; Mmm very true is it something like 150 restaurants right?</p>
<p>Travel Destinations &#8211; Hmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>GC &#8211; Hi C! Thanks for pointing it out, will make the changes, and yea terrible oversight from myself not to mention the Bib. Speaking of this particular style of French cuisine, I think the guide is biased towards what is known as Haute Cuisine right? This is due in part to the refinement work done by Chef Auguste Escoffier in the early 20th Century, and whom is considered a sort of father of modern day haute cuisine, and more liberally the front runner of what we recognise as the &#8216;michelin standard&#8217; &#8230; if such a bias does exists. </p>
<p>London Chow &#8211; Hakkasan is one of the worst restaurants in town in my humble opinion. I will give it that it still has great ambiance but food wise, this place is rip-off central. And this is coming from someone who used to like it. My example relates to meals from 2006 through to 2008. In 2006, when it was still a Yau establishment (and at the height of his success) , the cooking was definitely higher in terms of technical ability. I remember the claypot atlantic scallops &#8211; five extra large scallops full of &#8216;wok hei&#8217; &#8211; very good. The lobster tail roll &#8211; a whole tail wrapped in cucumber and then served in a clear broth &#8211; fantastic. Creme Brulee with melon &#8211; refreshing twist on a classic. In 2006, I think the star was well deserved. In 2008 , the scallops turned into fishballs and the Berkshire sweet and sour pork is worse than Wong Keis, at 15 pounds they are asking for, they are having a laugh! As for Yauatcha, I think the dim sum is good, but its not michelin star good. I can think of at least a handful of better and cheaper dim sum places in town which would easily match the standard at Yauatcha. The Yau magic is waning in 2010, I&#8217;m no longer a fan of his restaurants I&#8217;m afraid, his restaurants used to be bespoke and unique, now they feel commercial, I don&#8217;t know, I just think he&#8217;s turning into abit of a franchise, too much of a business and not much of a passion. I guess same thing about GR. I&#8217;m hoping to try Fat Duck this year as well. </p>
<p>Youngandfoolish &#8211; I suppose that&#8217;s where foodblogs come in <img src='http://londoneater.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>LexEat &#8211; Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: LexEat!</title>
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		<dc:creator>LexEat!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post. I really love your photo.</description>
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		<title>By: youngandfoodish</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some very good points about the accuracy/validity/fairness of Michelin marks. Sadly, Bib isn&#039;t alone in rating restaurants according to what&#039;s on a chef&#039;s CV rather than what&#039;s on his plates. Many UK critics do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some very good points about the accuracy/validity/fairness of Michelin marks. Sadly, Bib isn&#8217;t alone in rating restaurants according to what&#8217;s on a chef&#8217;s CV rather than what&#8217;s on his plates. Many UK critics do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: London Chow</title>
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		<dc:creator>London Chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had quite a good experience at Claridges when I was there some time last year. Thought that the entire experience is way better than Yauatcha, which saw an increase in prices and a reduction in menu recently.

I can&#039;t agree more about Hakkasan.

Hmm, hoping to try Fat Duck before the next price hike. 

C K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had quite a good experience at Claridges when I was there some time last year. Thought that the entire experience is way better than Yauatcha, which saw an increase in prices and a reduction in menu recently.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t agree more about Hakkasan.</p>
<p>Hmm, hoping to try Fat Duck before the next price hike. </p>
<p>C K</p>
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		<title>By: Gourmet Chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gourmet Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kang - the Ledbury is not on Westbourne Grove at all, it is on Ledbury Road (the giveaway is in the name!).  The broader question which I do not think you have touched on is whether Michelin stars favour a certain type of French classical cooking over other styles of cooking which I think is certainly a problem reflected in the award of 3 stars to Ducasse.  They have addressed your concerns over price by also awarding the Michelin Bib Gourmand to well priced restaurants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kang &#8211; the Ledbury is not on Westbourne Grove at all, it is on Ledbury Road (the giveaway is in the name!).  The broader question which I do not think you have touched on is whether Michelin stars favour a certain type of French classical cooking over other styles of cooking which I think is certainly a problem reflected in the award of 3 stars to Ducasse.  They have addressed your concerns over price by also awarding the Michelin Bib Gourmand to well priced restaurants.</p>
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		<title>By: Travel destinations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travel destinations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With no reservations and dishes available in tapas-sized portions, L&#039;Atelier was his two fingers up to formal dining. That he got away with it was as much to do with the quality of the cooking, which, despite the foreign trappings, was still unmistakably, fantastically French in dishes such as chestnut velouté with caramelised foie gras and crispy bacon, as it was to do with a trend towards informal dining. Ironically enough when, in 2003, he opened his second L&#039;Atelier in Paris, it quickly gained a Michelin star. For more information visit http://www.travelworth.com/the-best-hotels-in-the-world-for-your-vacation.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With no reservations and dishes available in tapas-sized portions, L&#8217;Atelier was his two fingers up to formal dining. That he got away with it was as much to do with the quality of the cooking, which, despite the foreign trappings, was still unmistakably, fantastically French in dishes such as chestnut velouté with caramelised foie gras and crispy bacon, as it was to do with a trend towards informal dining. Ironically enough when, in 2003, he opened his second L&#8217;Atelier in Paris, it quickly gained a Michelin star. For more information visit <a href="http://www.travelworth.com/the-best-hotels-in-the-world-for-your-vacation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.travelworth.com/the-best-hotels-in-the-world-for-your-vacation.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: M2</title>
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		<dc:creator>M2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the stars are going to Tokyo — London is far behind and cannot compete
with Japan.</description>
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with Japan.</p>
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